Archive for September 2009

The value of public opinion: Volusion & coreCommerce

Tuesday, September 29th, 2009

We have been keeping a close eye on the public opinion surrounding the Volusion shopping cart that we are looking at for a client. After our past couple of raving posts we noticed some down time with their service. Just search twitter for Volusion. There are some unhappy people there.

This led us to read a forum thread at http://www.auctionsellersmotivators.com/forum/index.php/topic,12420.0.html

which talked about Volusion, and another shopping that we had not heard of yet – http://www.corecommerce.com/.

So now we have another horse in this race.

We know very little about except for what we have read in the forum posting above. But it looks like someone takes the time out to measure (probably via ping) their ecommerce sites uptime. coreCommerce looks like it is doing a lot better than Volusion in this area.

Time to head over to http://www.corecommerce.com/ and get a trial account. Stay tuned boys and girls.

Follow up: Don’t forget to also read our follow up story: The PR hell that is Volusion

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Another Volusion Shopping Cart Update

Monday, September 28th, 2009

Here are a few tidbits from our past couple of days for Volusion Shopping Cart work for a client:

- We imported 20 files each being just under 10M (Volusion) limit, and each containing 2500 products. We are very happy with the results. The products came in just fine and reindexing them all afterwards went pretty fast. Each file only took anywhere from 2m37s to 3m2s to upload. And the upload time did NOT increase with the number of products. Volusion handled our clients CSV imports like a champ. There are now 40K products in the store.

- From reason the related products show up on a product page with the productshortname (SEOd with dashes) than just the product name. Need to get that one figured out.

- We still have not found to content area for where product details are displayed. :(

- If you fill in all of your supplier information the reports do indeed show profit $ and profit %. As Bill & Ted would say “Excellent!”

- We did our first mass update via the web interface. Since they have a SQL Server (or something like it) back end they give you an SQL type interface to make updates. So if you are a developer or DBA type you can use “UPDATE table SET field=value WHERE conditionclause”. We used it to put all of the products in warehouse 1. That “should” allow the shipping calculations at checkout to take place from shipping location (not the business location) to receiving location. The mass update for 40000 products did not take long and the results were good.

- With no extra work from us our SSL was installed during our order. Kudos.

- A big difference from a Yahoo cart – your customer stays at your domain for the entire experience. In a Yahoo cart you will notice that once you get into the checkout phase you actually switch domains to yahoo.com or yahoo.net domain. I never liked that.

More to come.

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Volusion Shopping Cart – Day 1

Saturday, September 26th, 2009

Well we’ve had the Volusion Shopping Cart for a client up and running for customization for just under a day and here are the thoughts so far:

Things that are easy to work with:

1. Uploading CSV files is going a lot faster in Volusion than in a Yahoo! store. I am keeping track of upload timings and so far the upload time is not decreasing proportionally with the number of products that we are having in our store. We will be eventually writing a full .NET class library to manage the Volusion store (let me know if you are interested in this) but for ease we are going with the CSV route for the initial upload.

2. Our client loves the fact that you can designate products in different warehouses across the country, and the shipping is calculated from the correct warehouses zip code. This is the bomb yo!

3. We see some promising thing with the fact that you can track your distributors part numbers and your cost from your distributors in the product. Hopefully there are some ROI reports in there for each order, month, etc.

4. You get full blown FTP access to your site. This is awesome. Any developer or designer knows that once you have raw file access there is not too much that you cannot do. This remains to be seen, but so far this is very nice.

5. We accidentally dove into some of the site stats. These look quite extensive.

6. It looks like there are some great options for the store manager after an order has been submitted – like being able to send the SAME order back to the customer for a different payment type.

Things that are a challenge so far (Disclaimer: Some of these may be a result of ignorance on our part) :

1. It took forever to figure out why a file we were uploading was not working. It says that there was no data in the file or that the file had no CSV data. This was clearly not the case, and even their support acknowledge the file looked good. This is a definite area of improvement – the diagnostic error messages that come out parsing file uploads. In the end it turned out being an issue on my end. But it just took too long to figure out. To make matters worse I gave the file to them and they uploaded it into my store OK. The end result: The file I was using did not have CRLF on the end (Carriage Return Line Feed). It only had LF. You could not tell this by opening the file in Notepad or Excel as both of them opened OK. I only saw it when I opened the file with Notepad++ and turned on the option to see hidden characters. Phew – that took all day to figure out.

2. Finding the encrypted password you need for API customization was a bear. Thank god for their forums. That should be there back in the admin interface someplace.

3. Your PRODUCTCODE (the unique key for every product) is limited in length. This is more of an adjustment than a gripe. In the current version of the store we are migrating you have 2-3 times the length. We had to move from an SEO optimized code to shorter numeric one. We will get over it.

4. I was not happy with their SEO options. You are limited on length and what control you have over your custom URL. They give you a field PRODUCTSHORTNAME where you put in your SEO optimized page name, but it is limited in length. So you page names come out to be www.sitename.com/productshortname/productcode.htm and not www.sitename.com/productshortname.htm (What I would have expected). Probably more of a mindset change on our part.

5. We were reading up on the Google Analytics tracking in the forum. We are going to want to implement full shopping cart/ecommerce tracking. This looks like it is going to be challenge once we get to it.

6. Even though you have full control over the page templates, there is a middle section called page_content. We are still hunting as to where this is created.

More to come as we get deeper in.

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Time for a new shopping cart for a client

Thursday, September 24th, 2009

One of the areas that we do no like reinventing the wheel on is shopping carts. If a client comes to use wanting an ecommerce site/shopping cart we will research one of the many good options, make a recommendation, and help get them up and running. There are just too many good companies with a lot of good options out there. And they deserve every dime they get.

Our latest venture – find a new shopping cart for BatteryFuel. We moved BatteryFuel to a Yahoo! shopping cart about 3 years and it was a big step up from what they had before. But over the years we have found that Yahoo! just does not allow much in terms of back end development (i.e. there is NO API for programming). For design/customization it also requires you to learn their proprietary language called RTML. No thanks – they’ve had enough. Time to shop and move on.

We narrowed it down to Big Commerce and Volusion, and we have settled on Volusion because – again – their API. The Big Commerce API is output only, while the Volusion API is input and output. Yay for them

Well we have just signed up for the biggest cart that Volusion has and we will start to play with their API and mass importing of products (50000+). Stay tuned to learn if/how Volusion can handle this project.

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Eating our own dog food!

Sunday, September 20th, 2009

For awhile now the staff here at GYWT has believed that the folks over at WordPress have create a beautiful product. It is not only a great blogging platform, it is a great content management system and overall site management package. We highly recommend it to every client we have, and most people take our word for it.

Well now we are eating our own dog food. As of today we are converting our site over to use WordPress. So you may see some things in odd places. But trust us – whatever you are looking for is here someplace.

This will be good!

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